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Post by LHR02 on Jan 19, 2006 10:30:59 GMT -5
Read in the International Herald Trib yesterday that Nikon is dropping its film division altogether and will stop making both camera bodies and lenses starting now, phasing out models as they go. One at a time apparently, but ebay business should pick up on these items as they will be unavailable elsewhere in the future.  |
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Post by me on Jan 19, 2006 10:46:22 GMT -5
I'd heard about that plan a while back. seems they want to make digital cameras exclusively. they believe digital is the future. [and they're probably right]
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Post by Eagle on Jan 19, 2006 20:15:52 GMT -5
Ging, I think the "writing is on the wall" with regards to film Cameras. From what I recall, Kodak has also started to downsize their film division quite drastically in favour of digital. I suspect that the wide selection in types of film will be a thing of the past very soon, and only a few types of film will be available.
When I first started using digital Cameras, I was a bit skeptical but I'm definitely a "convert" now. My experience with compact digital vs. film Cameras on my trip to England was an "awakening". By the end of the trip, I was using the digital almost exclusively. At the moment, I'm trying to become thoroughly familiar with my new digital SLR.
Most certainly there are pros & cons with both formats, and one should use whichever type they are most comfortable with. The issue of long term storage is something I haven't addressed yet, as hard drives DO fail and even burning to CD is not infallible (according to the "experts").
Hope your trip is going well; looking forward to your pictures!
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Post by dumbdiety on Jan 19, 2006 21:43:46 GMT -5
Hmph...guess this means we'll have to convert Ging now...this should prove to be hard.... ;D
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Post by Kim on Jan 19, 2006 22:02:01 GMT -5
I have a digital SLR that uses Nikon lenses that are interchangable with a film camera. Wonder how that will work. I can't see them eliminating lenses that are compatible with SLR's as the market is booming for digi SLR's - plus they are quite a bit more expensive than point and shoots, so more money in their pocket.
Kim
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Post by dumbdiety on Jan 19, 2006 23:18:26 GMT -5
But wait, there's more! ;D
Minolta is now getting out of the camera market ENTIRELY! They're selling their camera divisions to Sony.
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Post by MuvverRussia on Jan 20, 2006 7:40:18 GMT -5
Yeah, will that pose problems for Nikon? After all, they rely upon Sony for their CCD sensors.
As Sony and Nikon will now be in direct competition, will Sony develop higher quality sensors for their dSLRs, before filtering the technology down to Nikon?
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Post by dougj on Jan 20, 2006 9:35:54 GMT -5
I read about Minolta yesterday....good thing I've been planning on replacing my dimage 7hi this year.
canon 20d (or 20da) here I come.
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Post by Eagle on Jan 20, 2006 18:00:04 GMT -5
Thank goodness Canon makes their own CCD / CMOS sensors. They don't have to rely on any other manufacturer.
DougJ, the successor to the 20D should be released any time now. The rumor mill says that the PMA show in February is probably when we'll first see the new model.
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Post by dougjnotsignedin on Jan 20, 2006 19:34:54 GMT -5
yeah I heard a new one is coming out....that means prices will go down for the 20d....even better!
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Post by Eagle on Jan 21, 2006 0:00:25 GMT -5
dougj, the 20D is a fantastic Camera. I looked at that model when I was shopping for a dSLR at Christmas, but ended up choosing the Rebel XT as it fit more of the points on my selection criteria (size and weight were important factors).
I was fortunate to find one Camera shop in my area (not one of the usual "big box" retailers) that was staffed with professional and very knowledgeable sales people. They seem to specialize in both Canon and Nikon products, and some staff were "experts" on one brand or the other. Not only did they have all the answers to my questions, they were able to supply "from stock", the precise package of body, lens & accessories that I wanted.
I believe the 20D has already been discounted at least once, but as you said I think further price decreases will occur once the new model is introduced. In addition, I'll bet there will be LOTS of 20D's on E-Bay when the new model hits the store shelves!
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Post by dougj on Jan 24, 2006 7:54:58 GMT -5
dougj, the 20D is a fantastic Camera. I looked at that model when I was shopping for a dSLR at Christmas, but ended up choosing the Rebel XT as it fit more of the points on my selection criteria (size and weight were important factors). I was fortunate to find one Camera shop in my area ( not one of the usual "big box" retailers) that was staffed with professional and very knowledgeable sales people. They seem to specialize in both Canon and Nikon products, and some staff were "experts" on one brand or the other. Not only did they have all the answers to my questions, they were able to supply "from stock", the precise package of body, lens & accessories that I wanted. I believe the 20D has already been discounted at least once, but as you said I think further price decreases will occur once the new model is introduced. In addition, I'll bet there will be LOTS of 20D's on E-Bay when the new model hits the store shelves! I looked at the rebel but the 20d is supposedly better fo night photography (a couple of the people whose work I love use them) so thats the selling point for me. |
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Post by dougj on Jan 25, 2006 13:08:36 GMT -5
"supposidly" better than the rebel, yeah. I haven't tried either of them, and due to my location, can't.
I'm still looking around though, I have a lot of time before I replace my dimage 7hi. I'm pretty open to any dslr that can expand on what I already have and allow me to push my creativity further.
the nikon d2x is supposed to be incredible as well....but whos got 5 bills to throw on a camera....not I.
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Post by MuvverRussia on Jan 25, 2006 15:22:34 GMT -5
Not a chance. Selling your technology to other companies wont hurt your sales much and if they DONT sell to nikon, they lose alot of business. You gotta know they make a pretty peny on the sensors alone. Not so sure about that. Especially with consumer level cameras, the dSLR market is growing pretty rapidly and I can see Sony wanting a share of that market, leading to increased competition between the two. The profits and associated benefits (brand recognition etc) are a fair bit higher on end user products than they are on oem components as well, so this could be argued to be in their interests. Think Nikon will have to eventually internalise the production of their CCDs (as they do with their high end d2 series cameras), or failing that subcontract it out to other manufacturers if they wish to remain competitive. That said, they could come to some kind of agreement with Sony, although anything like that is only likely to be short term. Regardless, increased competition within the market is a great thing. It'll push technology forward, as well as driving prices down. |
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Post by dougj on Jan 26, 2006 7:00:38 GMT -5
I was talking about the dx2 being incredible for long exposures.
in my position, my camera limits what I can do (dimage 7hi only does 30 seconds bulb exposure) in regards to night photography, which is my becoming an increasing focus for me.
if I was taking another trip to Europe I think I'd take a nice, small P&S camera with me. I regretted having to dedicate a full bag to just my camera gear.
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