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Post by greeneyeddreamer on Jan 27, 2008 13:19:01 GMT -5
I was speaking to my good friend (who is planning to go with me), and she told me she wants to fit in Finland in our plans of travel.
However, Finland, in no way shape or form fits our trip.
Ideally, this is what we want
england -> amsterdam-> paris -> barcelona -> Nice and Monaco -> Switzerland -> Milan -> Venice -> Florence - > Rome -> Greece (though this is somewhere where I really want to go but am thinking I will probably have to drop it out of our plans because its far and we wont have enough time for it)
So having said that, how do I convince my friend that finland is not a good idea? So far it has just been me planning. Also I feel like if I have to give up Greece, she can give up Finland, plus we're only going to Amsterdam for her. I could pass that up easy.
ugh, any suggestions?
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Post by pointofnoreturn on Jan 27, 2008 14:11:24 GMT -5
Tell her to look into the flight costs to Finland and the costs of visiting the country itself (accommodations, food, transport, etc). That should make her change her mind LOL.
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Post by WillTravel on Jan 27, 2008 14:14:06 GMT -5
You don't have to be together the whole trip. If she really wants Finland, she can do that part on her own.
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Post by pointofnoreturn on Jan 27, 2008 14:20:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it would be a wise idea to tell her to go to Finland on her own - it might make her feel like she's not allowed to make decisions in terms of travelling and she might back out suddenly. That's coming from my experience though....
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Post by greeneyeddreamer on Jan 27, 2008 14:24:35 GMT -5
I don't think I could tell her to go to Finland alone.
We started the journey together we should finish it together.
But she thinks that since we have a rail pass, we could go. I disagree. Its just too much.
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Post by WillTravel on Jan 27, 2008 14:29:26 GMT -5
I agree - I think this would have to be done most diplomatically, and it might not be possible at all to say it without your friend getting upset. On the one hand, it's perfectly reasonable that you would both have different interests, and on the other hand, your friend might feel abandoned and unsupported.
So - good luck with resolving this. I have to say that being in a Nordic region in midsummer is really great, in terms of the endlessly long summer days.
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Post by WillTravel on Jan 27, 2008 14:30:43 GMT -5
If your friend thinks it will work because you have a rail pass, have her work out the precise train schedules that will make it work, and the to/from hostel time, etc.
It's easy to be unrealistic if you haven't actually had to do this before.
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Post by greeneyeddreamer on Jan 27, 2008 15:15:50 GMT -5
Im not opposed at all going, the more I see the better. I just dont think it fits.
Realistically, where and how in that itinerary would you make it work?
I dont want to give up Greece to go to Finland though.
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Post by WillTravel on Jan 27, 2008 15:33:28 GMT -5
I can't see doing it without dropping something else, or probably two places, because Finland is more out of the way. If you got airfare to fly in or out of Finland (open-jaw tickets), it would likely cost a fortune from Canada. It is a dilemma. Why is she so interested in Finland? Maybe she can meet her interests elsewhere.
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Post by greeneyeddreamer on Jan 27, 2008 15:40:31 GMT -5
I can't see doing it without dropping something else, or probably two places, because Finland is more out of the way. If you got airfare to fly in or out of Finland (open-jaw tickets), it would likely cost a fortune from Canada. It is a dilemma. Why is she so interested in Finland? Maybe she can meet her interests elsewhere. *sigh* She just says she wants to see it and also because a lot of her favourite bands are from there... That really bugs me cause I don't think its nearly a good enough reason as "I want to see and experience all the ancient architecture" I don't want to cut my experience in a place like Italy to see Finland.... |
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Post by WillTravel on Jan 27, 2008 16:26:32 GMT -5
So is it extreme heavy-metal bands that she likes?
You do have London and Amsterdam to get a lot of music scene (and probably it's possible elsewhere too).
You could check where these bands are touring and arrange to meet up with one of their concerts.
My daughter found a punk rock marathon concert in London which she really enjoyed, and then in Cologne and Amsterdam she found some other music shows.
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Post by pointofnoreturn on Jan 27, 2008 16:33:08 GMT -5
I think you should just be nice and tell her why it's not plausible. Make her grasp the concept that it's unfeasible and an extra burden. There are lots of great music scenes elsewhere. WT makes a good point about checking the tour schedules. You just might find them playing elsewhere.
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Post by herrbert on Jan 28, 2008 7:40:54 GMT -5
I have to say that I really liked Helsinki, and Turku, and that it as worth to go there. But like someone already said: into this initerary, with this amount of time, I wouldn't do it.
There are budgetflights available from places like Germany (Air Berlin), and a lot of places with Blue1 (the budgetcompany of SAS), If you could agree to go there (which I understand is not the case), then you really need to go there 3 or 4 days, which means dropping an other city/town on your list.
If she really wants to go there, then let her go there, and meet up a couple of days later.
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Post by stylescriber on May 26, 2008 21:51:26 GMT -5
Try to talk her out about her suggestion. If nothing works, tell her that she can go on her own. Make sure you put smile with it. I'm sure there is a compromise and you'll work it out along the way. Planning a travel is good, but when you're there, always leave a room to travel somewhere else.
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