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Post by dumbdiety on Dec 21, 2006 20:51:19 GMT -5
For those other geeks on the boards...
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
uh....ya.....dunno what it refers to....
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Post by madamtrashheap on Dec 21, 2006 23:06:36 GMT -5
Doesn't "hallows" means "saints" or "holy"? Does that mean that Harry has gone Satanic??? ("Deathly Saints") Or maybe, and this is lateral use of an English degree let me tell you, it's something to do with Halloween and then All Saint's Day in Europe (1st November). Or maybe not....
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Post by pointofnoreturn on Dec 21, 2006 23:24:07 GMT -5
Ooh, totally looking forward to it! I have to admit that my godmother bought me the 1st two books that came out (it was WAY before their popularity) and I wasn't even interested in them cause I thought they were kiddie books LOL. But I eventually picked them up and gave them a try and I've loved them ever since!
Book No. 7 is my No. 1 item on my wishlist for 2007!!! That and Dan Brown's "The Solomon Key".
And please please, let there be a lack of emo-ness concerning Ron and Cho Chang. I've had it with teen angst!!!!
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Post by me on Dec 21, 2006 23:44:46 GMT -5
Bingo! i've been told that Halloween means "All Hallow's Eve," the day before All Saint's Day. but, this might not have been what was on Rowling's mind when she named the book. - d Or maybe, and this is lateral use of an English degree let me tell you, it's something to do with Halloween and then All Saint's Day in Europe (1st November).
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Post by pointofnoreturn on Dec 21, 2006 23:50:02 GMT -5
Isn't Hallow's Eve more of like celebrating the dead spirits or something to that effect?
Makes me curious to find out what the book is really going to be about - beside the obvious fact that there is a denouement to Harry's story.
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Post by me on Dec 23, 2006 18:48:38 GMT -5
don't know about dead Spirits. but, i think it started as the day before All Saints Day. then the candy companies used marketing to turn it into a big kids party. Dias de Los Muertos in Mexico has a more substantial etymology. Christmas has some similarity. the day of Christ's birthday wasn't a big deal in the early Church. Xmas <abriviated from the Greek word for Christ, which starts with X, the Greek letter Chi plus the English suffix "mas." it has nothing to do with "taking Christ out of Christmas"> was celebrated in late December to coincide with what they thought was the date of Winter solstice in order to co opt the pagan celebrations thereof. the retail sector has turned Xmas into a big gift giving extravaganza. it seems a more appropriate date to give gifts would be Epiphany, the celebration of the gift of the Magi - the wise men from the East. to most believers - to me anyway - the most important Christian holiday is Easter, the date we commemorate Jesus being raised from the dead. but because, i suspect, the word "Christ" is in Christmas, popular culture rates Xmas as the more "Christian" holiday. Isn't Hallow's Eve more of like celebrating the dead spirits or something to that effect? Makes me curious to find out what the book is really going to be about - beside the obvious fact that there is a denouement to Harry's story.
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Post by herrbert on Dec 23, 2006 19:30:18 GMT -5
to most believers - to me anyway - the most important Christian holiday is Easter, the date we commemorate Jesus being raised from the dead. but because, i suspect, the word "Christ" is in Christmas, popular culture rates Xmas as the more "Christian" holiday. The connection between politics and Christmas might be older than most of you expect. The date 25th of December was considered in the first centuries to be the birth-date of Mithras. Who was one of the other persons considered to be the Messiah, at least for a large group of people. At some point in history, the Mitras-religion was bigger in Rome, than the Jesus-religion. (both stories are really similar btw). The victory (if you can call it that) for the Jesus-religion came, when roman emperors started to adopt this 'new' religion, and mixed it up, with some other religions/cults that where fashionable in that time. A more appropriate time to give gifts could be (and in some countries (Holland/Belgium) this is a tradition) of course the 5th or 6th of December, the 6th being the name-day of St. Nicolas. The bishop of Myra, who helped a couple of families, by giving them money. (and did this anonymously). And where does Harry Potter 7 fits into my story .... no idea really (maybe it makes a good gift for Christmas/St.Nicolas 2007)
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Post by Jules80 on Dec 26, 2006 12:07:22 GMT -5
hallow
verb
To give over by or as if by vow to a higher purpose: consecrate, dedicate, devote. See give/take/reciprocity. To make sacred by a religious rite: bless, consecrate, sanctify. See religion.
should be an interesting book in any case! definately want to read both books point of no return mentioned!
Jules
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Post by me on Dec 26, 2006 13:24:37 GMT -5
this may be picking nits, but it seems to me, in this context hallows is not a verb - it's a noun. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hallow:Noun Singular hallow Plural hallows hallow (plural hallows) (archaic) a holy person, a saint All Hallows Eve (or Halloween), the night before All Hallows Day (now more commonly known as "All Saints Day").
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Post by Jules80 on Dec 27, 2006 21:33:08 GMT -5
meh whatever. meaning is similar.
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lia
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Post by lia on Feb 21, 2007 5:41:46 GMT -5
But when is it going to arrive?!? I just can't wait to read it!!!
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Post by dumbdiety on Feb 21, 2007 20:53:58 GMT -5
July...2 weeks after the new movie. Somehow, even though I don't work at the bookstore anymore, I'm working that night....still haven't figured out how she sucked me into it.... ;D
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lia
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Post by lia on Feb 23, 2007 4:58:51 GMT -5
JULY! and I suppose in Italy it will arrive much much later..christmas or new year..gosh, that's an eternity! ok, I'll wait. wow, dumbdiety, I'd love to work in a bookstore - looks like you don't enjoy it that much, though ;D
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Post by dumbdiety on Apr 3, 2007 5:34:52 GMT -5
Not true, I love working at the bookstore. I just don't understand how I manage to keep getting sucked back in to work there... ;D
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Post by Jules80 on Apr 3, 2007 20:28:18 GMT -5
lia - i suspect that you will be able to purchase the book in italy at roughly the same time as anywhere else, in english. if you want it in italian, than you will probably have to wait a little longer...
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