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Post by dumbdiety on Oct 23, 2005 13:16:28 GMT -5
Ok, so there's been MUCH talk about something like this, so let's start, eh? We all know that Europe is home to many (manymanymanymany) languages. This little project is to compile a simple printout of the most common (and useful) phrases in various languages. First, we need a list of what to put in it...anyone? I'll keep the post right below this one updated with the phrases as we get them. I won't be much help with ANY of the translations (unless you count Geek...I can speak Geek REALLY well ;D), but I can keep this thing organized. Ready all?
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Post by dumbdiety on Oct 23, 2005 13:16:53 GMT -5
Right now, I'm going to format it like this: [number] [english phrase] As translations come in, all you need to do is type [##] translation
KEEP THE PHRASES CLEAN! I may not be able to read the translations, but other trusted friends on the board can!
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Post by dumbdiety on Oct 23, 2005 13:22:00 GMT -5
[Being Human] [22] Hello, my name is... [23] Thank you! [24] Goodbye! [25] Good morning/afternoon/evening/night [26] Do you speak English? [27] I apologise for not speaking your language.
[Food] [03] I am a vegetarian. Is there any meat in this dish?
[Geography] [01] Where is the closest bathroom? [02] Where is the hospital? [07] Can you direct me to the pharmacy? [08] Where is the nearest grocery store? [09] Where is the nearest bus stop?
[Hotel/Hostel] [10] Is this the price per person? [11] Is this the price per room? [12] How much for ## night(s)?
[Medical] [04] I am a diabetic. I need orange juice (or sugar...how can we word this to be more 'general'?)
[Misc] [05] May I pet your dog? [06] How much is this?
[Safety] [28] Please leave me alone! [29] I am with my boyfriend/girlfriend. [30] Where is the nearest police station? [31] Excuse me, could you please help me? [32] Where is the American/Australian/Canadian/etc Embassay?
[Touristy Things] [13] Where is the Tourist Office? [14] What are the opening hours? [15] Am I allowed to take pictures? [16] Can I take a picture of you?
[Traffic/Directions - more what to look for than phrases] [17] Left turn [18] Right turn [19] Straight ahead [20] Crossing/intersection [21] Stop sign
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Post by LHR02 on Oct 23, 2005 13:51:35 GMT -5
Oh, we need more specific type things!
I am a vegetarian....is there any meat in this dish?
I am a diabetic.....I need oj or whatever
May I pet/touch your dog? (coz I am always missing my bubby when travelling!)
Come on folks! What question do you always wish you had handy?
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Post by Cat on Oct 23, 2005 15:10:11 GMT -5
Thanks for organising this Doug! Dankjewel dat je dit wil organiseren Doug! add. to [04] I am a diabetic. I need glucose. - Maybe add some popoular 'local' brands of drinks and/or candy bars? (I think a diabetic should keep this in writing on his person in an easily accessable place. Once you slip into hypoglycocemia (sp?) it will be hard to speak and think coherently) Misc.: - How much is this? Geography: - Can you direct me to the pharmacy? - Where is the nearest grocery store? - Where is the nearest bus stop? Touristy: - Where is the Tourist Office? - What are the opening hours? - Am I allowed to take pictures? - Can I take a picture of you? Hostelling: - Is this the price per person? - Is this the price per room? - How much for ... night(s)? Traffic and (asking) directions: - Left turn - Right turn - Straight ahead - Crossing/intersection - Stop sign Courtesy: - Hello, my name is... - Thank you! - Goodbye - Good morning/afternoon/evening/night - Do you speak English? - I apologise for not speaking your language. Can't think of anything else at the moment. It might be an idea to make sections (like I attempted here). That'll keep it organised and help us think of additional questions.
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Post by allthings on Oct 23, 2005 15:54:16 GMT -5
SAFETY - Please leave me alone - I am with my boyfriend/girlfriend - Where is the nearest police station - Excuse me, could you please help me - Where is the American/Australian/Canadian etc embassay?
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Post by Jules80 on Oct 23, 2005 17:09:16 GMT -5
as a point, the question should be, where is the nearest toilet? people in europe look at you VERY strangely when you ask for a bathroom in a public place. it is strictly in someone's house.
french: Being Human] [22] Bonjour, je m'appelle... [23] Merci! [24] Au revoir! [25] Bon matin, Bonjour, Bon Soir, Bonne Soiree [26] Parlez-vous anglais? [27] Je m'excuse, je ne parle pas le français
[Food] [03] Je suis végétarien(ne). Est-ce qu'il y de la viande dans ce plat?
[Geography] [01] Ou est la toilette? [02] Ou est l'hopitale? [07] Pouvez-vous me diriger à la pharmacie? [08] Ou est le super-marché le plus proche? [09] Ou est l'arrêt d'autobus le plus proche?
[Hotel/Hostel] [10] Est-ce que ceci est le prix par personne? [11] Est-ce que ceci est le prix pour la chambre? [12] Ça coûte combien pour XX nuits?
[Misc] [05] Est-ce que je pourrais flatter votre chien? [06] Ça coûte combien?
[Safety] [29] Je suis avec mon chum/ma blonde, copin/copine [30]Ou est la police? [31] Excusé moi, est-ce que vous pouvez m'aider? [32] Ou est l'ambassade americaine/canadienne?
[Touristy Things] [13] Ou est l'office de tourisme? [14] Quels sont les heures d'ouverture ? [15] Est-ce que je peux prendre des photos? [16] Est-ce que je peux prendre une photo de vous?
[Traffic/Directions - more what to look for than phrases] [17] virer à gauche [18] virer à droit [19] tout droit [20] intersection [21] arrêt
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Post by LHR02 on Oct 23, 2005 17:34:49 GMT -5
Thanks Cat for the diabetic clarification. That seems to me to be the advantage of online folks helping. Most any 'basic' question or phrase will likely be covered in any guidebook. But if I am diabetic (not) or asthmatic (yes) there might be specific questions/statements relating to myself that will not be covered in a general phrase book. It's those 'personal' questions that can be translated that is the real advantage we Americans have here with those of you blessed with multiple languages! ging
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Post by me on Oct 23, 2005 18:57:23 GMT -5
But if I am diabetic (not) or asthmatic (yes) there might be specific questions/statements relating to myself that will not be covered in a general phrase book. my Dad was asthmatic. on our '99 trip to Spain, he neglected to bring one of his medicines along and needed it in Madrid. he had no trouble walking into a pharmacy and buying a bottle w/o a prescription. he also was surprised at paying pennies on the dollar, compared to here at home.
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Post by Eagle on Oct 23, 2005 19:35:42 GMT -5
From what I recall, didn't some start a Thread on this topic a few months ago? I'd have to give some thought on what phrases would be useful for me. Just curious, how many languages were you intending to list? Also, would it be worthwhile to provide tips on pronunciation for some of the more unusual words?
Have to go for dinner now, but I'll stop back later and list some Italian phrases.
Cheers!
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Post by Cat on Oct 24, 2005 2:15:57 GMT -5
Eagle, a while ago we were talking about starting a thread like this. This might be what you had in mind. We do have to think about pronounciation, but I guess that, because it is in writing, people can also show the card when they are on the road.
As for translations: I can offer Dutch translations for every sentence here, but thought it better to wait for a bit untill we have this thing more outlined.
Are we going to translate the sentences already of should we hold off for a bit? It might be an idea to compile a list of people who can offer translations. If Doug was willing to e-mail a more definitive list with phrases to those people he could easily post it in this thread. It would keep it more organised.
I'll start off:
Cat: Dutch, English (d'oh!) German (not perfectly), French (not perfectly),
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Post by dumbdiety on Oct 27, 2005 14:52:16 GMT -5
Hey all, just back from Hurricane Wilma. I'm settling on a format for this (what else did I have to do when the power was out!) and I'll be posting it either later tonight or tomorrow sometime. Cat, if you'd like to translate what's here into Dutch, that'd be great!
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Post by Cat on Oct 28, 2005 2:01:22 GMT -5
Sure Doug, no prob! ;D Dutch [Being Human] [22] Hello, my name is... Hallo, ik ben.....[23] Thank you! Dank u wel! (formal) Dank je wel! (informal)[24] Goodbye! Tot ziens![25] Good morning/afternoon/evening/night Goede morgen/middag/avond/nacht[26] Do you speak English? Spreekt u engels?[27] I apologise for not speaking your language. Sorry, ik spreek uw taal niet. OR: Sorry, ik spreek geen Nederlands(= I apologise, I don't speak Dutch) Addition to the french translation of [27], Jules wrote 'I apologise for not speaking French' A more exact translation would be: Je m'excuse pour ne parler pas votre language. (I hope I got it right!) Yeah, I'm anal. [Food] [03] I am a vegetarian. Is there any meat in this dish? Ik ben vegetariër, zit er vlees in dit gerecht?[Geography] [01] Where is the (closest) bathroom? Waar is het (dichtstbijzijnde) toilet?[02] Where is the hospital? Waar is het ziekenhuis?[07] Can you direct me to the pharmacy? Kunt u mij vertellen waar de apotheek is?[08] Where is the (nearest) grocery store? Waar is de (dichtstbijzijnde) supermarkt?[09] Where is the (nearest) bus stop? Waar is de (dichtstbijzijnde) bushalte?[Hotel/Hostel] [10] Is this the price per person? Is dit de prijs per persoon?[11] Is this the price per room? Is dit de prijs per kamer?[12] How much for ## night(s)? Hoeveel voor ## nachten?[Medical] [04] I am a diabetic. I need orange juice (or sugar...how can we word this to be more 'general'?) Ik heb suikerziekte, ik heb sinaasappelsap/frisdrank (sugar=suiker) nodig.[Misc] [05] May I pet your dog? Mag ik uw hond aaien?[06] How much is this? Hoeveel kost dit?[Safety] [28] Please leave me alone! Laat me met rust![29] I am with my boyfriend/girlfriend. Ik ben hier met mijn vriend/vriendin[30] Where is the (nearest) police station? Waar is het (dichtstbijzijnde) politiebureau?[31] Excuse me, could you please help me? Pardon, kunt u mij helpen?[32] Where is the American/Australian/Canadian/etc Embassay? Waar is de Amerikaanse/Australische/Canadese/etc. ambassade?[Touristy Things] [13] Where is the Tourist Office? Waar is de VVV?[14] What are the opening hours? Wat zijn de openingstijden?[15] Am I allowed to take pictures? Mag ik hier foto's maken?[16] Can I take a picture of you? Mag ik een foto van u maken?[Traffic/Directions - more what to look for than phrases] [17] Left turn Linksaf[18] Right turn Rechtsaf[19] Straight ahead Rechtdoor[20] Crossing/intersection Kruising[21] Stop sign StoplichtThere you go, some of the subtleties of the sentences got lost in translation, but with this set you should be able to get around. I also placed some words between brackets, as they are quite difficult to pronounce in Dutch and not really neccessairy to convey the meaning of the sentence. Next stage: pronounciation! PS: I'll be gone from Nov. 3rd through Nov 26 (holiday in South Africa, yay!) I won't be online too much then, so don't count on a addition then.
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Post by dumbdiety on Nov 14, 2005 18:28:55 GMT -5
I haven't forgotten about this, the hurricane screwed up my school stuff. When it calms down again I'll be able to work on this!
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Post by stanncie on Nov 14, 2005 21:39:59 GMT -5
En espaniol o castellano [22] Hola, mi nombre es.... [23] Gracias [24] Adios or more common Chau! [25] Buenos dias, Buenas tardes/noches [26] Habla ingles? [27]Siento no nablar su idioma
[Food] [03]Soy, vegetariana (o), hay carne en este plato?
[Geography] [01] Donde esta el banio mas cercano? [02] Donde esta el hospital? [07] Donde esta la farmacia mas cercana? [08] Donde esta el mercado mas cercano? [09] Donde esta el paradero mas cercano?
[Hotel/Hostel] [10] Este precio, es por persona? [11]Este es el precio por cuarto? [12]Cuanto por ## noches? or una noche?
[Medical] [04] Soy diabetico (a) , me podria dar azucar? [Misc] [05]Puedo hacerle carinio a su perro? [06] Cuanto cuesta esto?
[Safety] [28] Por favor, dejeme en paz! [29]Estoy con mi novio (a) [30] Donde esta la estacion de policia? [31] Perdon, me podria ayudar? [32] Donde esta la Embajada de ......
[Touristy Things] [13] Donde esta la oficina de turismo? [14] Cual es el horario? literally what is the schedule?? [15] Puedo tomar fotos? [16] Le podria tomar una foto?
[Traffic/Directions - more what to look for than phrases] [17] Izquierda [18] Derecha [19] Derecho, Recto, de frente [20] Cruzada, interseccion [21] Pare
I hope this is ok, i did everything in the polite form, i substited the n with the tilde on top with a nio since that's basically the sound you make when you say it. I tried to put the most general ways of saying things, living in miami people speak spanish in tons of different ways cuz of the variety of cultures.
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